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Post by Dark Sol on Tue Jun 03, 2008 11:36 pm

I mean why some people keep on buying several sealed copies of same games? What is this? Stupidity? Greed? Investment? Madness?
Own ONE copy. It's perfect already. Stare at it. Why a dozen? Razz
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Post by wheelaa on Wed Jun 04, 2008 12:16 am

Loads of reasons.

Personally I've doubled/tripled/etc up on some games in the past either

they've been cheap - nothing worse than dropping lots and seeing it 1/2 the price a day later!

they've been offered in multiples etc.

(I suppose on the odd occasion I just love a game too much not to buy it, but all the doubles go eventually)

But I'd never flip for profit, decent games make great trade fodder. Got some great saturn betas/protos in the past/on the way for good marty trade for example. Plus it can be much easier to get items from other collectors if you're offering something good in exchange. Many, me included, would rather trade nice stuff than sell.

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Re: Why several copies?!?

Post by striker on Wed Jun 04, 2008 12:39 am

I agree with DARK SOL.

Honestly, I thought I was pretty OCD when it came to collecting.

At least I only get sealed game which I actually have played, and only one copy for the sake of memories.

But come on, 2+ copies of a game?? And only because everyone else wants it too. I know some people here have expensive sealed games they never played or played for like 2 minutes.

You would never see someone with two or three copies of LEGO RACERS or COLUMNS (lol Dark Sol Razz ) now would you?

I guess the saying is true that people enjoy stuff more when they know others have been left out of the pleasure.

And TBH, when it comes to items this valuable, I would never ever trust someone to trade unless I was seeing them in person. Who would ever send there stuff first in this case?
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Re: Why several copies?!?

Post by wheelaa on Wed Jun 04, 2008 12:50 am

striker wrote:
And TBH, when it comes to items this valuable, I would never ever trust someone to trade unless I was seeing them in person. Who would ever send there stuff first in this case?

You just need to deal with the right people, the good guys. Plenty out there. I wasn't talking randoms in my case, 90% of my trades are with long standing associates of some sort.

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Re: Why several copies?!?

Post by rarebucky on Wed Jun 04, 2008 1:13 am

It's funny you brought this up, DS, because I agree with you 100%. There are certain people (a number of which are on this forum) who feel the need to hoard all kinds of expensive games, with no other intent than just sit on them. It's ridiculous but if that's what makes them happy then so be it. But it sucks for the other collectors that don't have a chance at them Sad

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Re: Why several copies?!?

Post by happyheed on Wed Jun 04, 2008 1:49 am

i have about 10 copies of zelda oot . the reason is that i was offered about 12 as a bulk lot so i just bought them for a good price . i have traded a few of them on to fellow collectors and will probably do the same in the future . nothing wrong with that ???
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Re: Why several copies?!?

Post by blarky on Wed Jun 04, 2008 3:44 am

Several reasons.

1)Why I acquired multiple copies of some games:
The main reason I have more than one copy of several games is because I got them for the right price. I won a lot of them on ebay a long time ago for cheap relative today's prices. Over time, things worked out, and a lot of them have gone up in price.

2)Why I still have multiple copies of some games and haven't traded or sold them:
With respect to trading, really nothing better has come along to warrant me to trade them. I'm not going to trade a rare and expensive game for a bunch of cheaper games. But I wouldn't mind trading a duplicate if it's for something approx the same value and something that I'd want (which unfortunately isn't much).
With respect to selling, I could sell some of them, true. But I'm not in the business to make a living off of this hobby.

Rarebucky, not sure if your comments are directed to people like me, but do I feel bad about not selling or trading my duplicates? Not really. For example, I've been asked by so many people about my Chrono Triggers. I unfortunately have had to reply the same way to all who have asked. But you know what? They pop up on ebay fairly regulary! YES, THIS IS A GAME YOU CAN ACTUALLY FIND! It's there on ebay! Pricey, yes, but it's available, and you can buy or win it! It's not hoarding them if you can grab it elsewhere.

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Re: Why several copies?!?

Post by Startyde on Wed Jun 04, 2008 4:09 am

I buy multiple copies at times because I'm like total ADD and honestly forget I bought them years prior.
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Re: Why several copies?!?

Post by rarebucky on Wed Jun 04, 2008 4:36 am

No, blarky, my comment was not directed at you. But as you can see, you are not alone. I have had multiples of games for some of the reasons mentioned above (mostly having to do with dirt cheap clearances, sometimes upgrading to a nicer copy) but as many of you know, I have been selling them all off. It does me no good to sit on them. They take up space and I'd rather other collectors enjoy them. I truly do not understand the point of holding onto multiple copies forever. That is just silly. You're better off selling off the multiples and investing the money in the financial markets.

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Re: Why several copies?!?

Post by blarky on Wed Jun 04, 2008 4:51 am

I know I don't need 3 copies of a game. Heck I don't even really need a single copy of any of them. None of us do. To me this is a hobby that started out innocent, then got sorta serious, but has backed down a lot. Those couple of summers back when I first started hunting games on ebay in the late 90's were a truely fun times. Maybe I will trim the fat one day and get rid of my dupes. Heck, one day I might even sell everything I have if I ever need to raise cash for a big purchase. I put this hobby aside for several years just to get back into it, maybe I'll do the same again. As far as the financial markets, I would hesitate there as nothing I've ever done there has worked out awesome. If you have any investment tips, I'm all ears Smile

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Re: Why several copies?!?

Post by rarebucky on Wed Jun 04, 2008 6:36 am

My best investment tip would be to invest in the Rarebucky fund (NYSE ticker RBY) as they're doing pretty well these days. I hear you can put up rare games as colleteral so you don't even need funds to start Smile

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Re: Why several copies?!?

Post by Dark Sol on Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:47 am

Well i guess it's just greed. And nothing more. Be honest to yourself.
When you see cheap game you WANT to buy it. No matter how much of them u have. in love!
I'm not a saint also. I wanted to buy second sealed Shining Force cd. And almost bought. But i've made a low bid on purpose because later i realized i already had one which is perfect and i don't need anymore! Why the hell i need to hoard piles of same copies? I'm not some Scrooge McDuck. I want to share some games with people. Let em go. Simply as that. This is madness. For example buying some ultra game which showed up once in a lifetime on ebay is one thing. Buying more copies of uber rare games just because they are "rare" and may be rarer in the future? C'mon. This is Mr Scrooge McDuck talkin in you . lol!


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Re: Why several copies?!?

Post by striker on Wed Jun 04, 2008 6:50 pm

lol SOL it's actually Scrooge McDuck but your post is powerful none the less.
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Re: Why several copies?!?

Post by Adol on Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:26 pm

Dark Sol wrote:I mean why some people keep on buying several sealed copies of same games? What is this? Stupidity? Greed? Investment? Madness?
Own ONE copy. It's perfect already. Stare at it. Why a dozen? Razz

Why such anger? "stupidity"? "madness"? Wow.
There's no need to be angry because some people do some things you can't.

If you want badly a game,it's simple:buy it. Just overbid the guy.
If that guy can bid on it,so can you.

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Re: Why several copies?!?

Post by happyheed on Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:30 pm

Adol wrote:
Dark Sol wrote:I mean why some people keep on buying several sealed copies of same games? What is this? Stupidity? Greed? Investment? Madness?
Own ONE copy. It's perfect already. Stare at it. Why a dozen? Razz

Why such anger? "stupidity"? "madness"? Wow.
There's no need to be angry because some people do some things you can't.

If you want badly a game,it's simple:buy it. Just overbid the guy.
If that guy can bid on it,so can you.

maybe its the communist mentality lol!
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Re: Why several copies?!?

Post by striker on Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:34 pm

Adol wrote:
Dark Sol wrote:I mean why some people keep on buying several sealed copies of same games? What is this? Stupidity? Greed? Investment? Madness?
Own ONE copy. It's perfect already. Stare at it. Why a dozen? Razz

Why such anger? "stupidity"? "madness"? Wow.
There's no need to be angry because some people do some things you can't.

If you want badly a game,it's simple:buy it. Just overbid the guy.
If that guy can bid on it,so can you.

It's a fair point, but you never answered the question:

Why have two or more copies?
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Re: Why several copies?!?

Post by Dark Sol on Wed Jun 04, 2008 10:49 pm

Adol wrote:
Dark Sol wrote:I mean why some people keep on buying several sealed copies of same games? What is this? Stupidity? Greed? Investment? Madness?
Own ONE copy. It's perfect already. Stare at it. Why a dozen? Razz

Why such anger? "stupidity"? "madness"? Wow.
There's no need to be angry because some people do some things you can't.

If you want badly a game,it's simple:buy it. Just overbid the guy.
If that guy can bid on it,so can you.
Where do you see anger in my words? None of it here. There's even a smile at the end.
We're not talking about how badly we want games. We're talking about how we feed our passion. For someone buying just one copy is not enough. Razz
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Re: Why several copies?!?

Post by Adol on Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:04 pm

Dark Sol wrote:Where do you see anger in my words? None of it here.

Then why using word like stupidity? why not using the word "accomplishment"? More positive,huh?

Dark Sol wrote:
We're not talking about how badly we want games. We're talking about how we feed our passion. For someone buying just one copy is not enough. Razz

Exactly.Sometimes buying the factory sealed carton box from Nintendo isn't enough.

striker wrote:
It's a fair point, but you never answered the question: Why have two or more copies?

Because the first one wasn't in that great condition the 2nd is?

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Post by rarebucky on Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:28 pm

Adol wrote:
Dark Sol wrote:Where do you see anger in my words? None of it here.

Then why using word like stupidity? why not using the word "accomplishment"? More positive,huh?

Dark Sol wrote:
We're not talking about how badly we want games. We're talking about how we feed our passion. For someone buying just one copy is not enough. Razz

Exactly.Sometimes buying the factory sealed carton box from Nintendo isn't enough.

striker wrote:
It's a fair point, but you never answered the question: Why have two or more copies?

Because the first one wasn't in that great condition the 2nd is?

Yes, I agree with you on that, but why hold onto the "lesser condition" copy? Why not just sell it? That's where I don't understand you guys. I agree with everyone (and almost everyone here will agree) that we are always trying to find the nicest copies possible. The question is when you find the nicest copy you can why sit on 3 other copies? Because it makes you feel good knowing that other people don't have them? That is the only rational explanation I can come up with. And that is a very selfish reason to hold onto stuff.

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Post by Dark Sol on Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:33 pm

Adol wrote:
Then why using word like stupidity? why not using the word "accomplishment"? More positive,huh?
Cmon, don't be straighforward and don't take it personal. I'm ironic. Not more. And what's wrong with stupidity? Maybe some people buy dozen of same games because they are dumb and think there penis will grow longer because of it. lol! Hard to believe though, since there's much knowledge involved in sealed process. You have to be very educated. Laughing

Exactly.Sometimes buying the factory sealed carton box from Nintendo isn't enough.
And that's the reason to buy more carton box from Nintendo? I don't see any logic.
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Post by Pascal on Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:55 pm

the logic of buying several copies is simple my friend:
It is like buying more than one share !
You just hope that the value of that game increases ...
If you have luck you can get a multiple profit!
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Post by Adol on Thu Jun 05, 2008 12:06 am

rarebucky wrote:
Yes, I agree with you on that, but why hold onto the "lesser condition" copy? Why not just sell it? That's where I don't understand you guys. I agree with everyone (and almost everyone here will agree) that we are always trying to find the nicest copies possible. The question is when you find the nicest copy you can why sit on 3 other copies? Because it makes you feel good knowing that other people don't have them? That is the only rational explanation I can come up with. And that is a very selfish reason to hold onto stuff.

And WHY selling it,if you don't need the money?

Another possibility,in case of sale:Why bargaining it,if the price you will eventually ask for selling your 2nd copy won't fit the low expectations of buyers who always want everything for $1?

Wanting a game for $200 that has been paid $800 for,that's selfish as well.

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Post by striker on Thu Jun 05, 2008 1:22 am

The reason for selling it is to help other's complete their collections. I like to think that sealed collector's should be friends not enemies, but that's the feeling I get sometimes.

And nobody said you have to sell it for less than you paid.
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Post by rarebucky on Thu Jun 05, 2008 2:47 am

Pascal wrote:the logic of buying several copies is simple my friend:
It is like buying more than one share !
You just hope that the value of that game increases ...
If you have luck you can get a multiple profit!

I have to disagree with you on this. If that is the theory why people do that then I am definitely on the wrong forum. That is just stupid, yes, stupid. We collect games because we all grew up with them and for various reasons want to hold onto those memories and sealed games are a great way to do that. But to buy up as many copies of "rare" games as possible because you think the value will increase is the wrong reason. I'll have to agree with striker's rationale on this. If you are looking for "investments" there are certainly better things to put your money in than video games.

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Post by rarebucky on Thu Jun 05, 2008 2:51 am

Adol wrote:
rarebucky wrote:
Yes, I agree with you on that, but why hold onto the "lesser condition" copy? Why not just sell it? That's where I don't understand you guys. I agree with everyone (and almost everyone here will agree) that we are always trying to find the nicest copies possible. The question is when you find the nicest copy you can why sit on 3 other copies? Because it makes you feel good knowing that other people don't have them? That is the only rational explanation I can come up with. And that is a very selfish reason to hold onto stuff.

And WHY selling it,if you don't need the money?

Another possibility,in case of sale:Why bargaining it,if the price you will eventually ask for selling your 2nd copy won't fit the low expectations of buyers who always want everything for $1?

Wanting a game for $200 that has been paid $800 for,that's selfish as well.

Because, Adol, I know this is a foreign concept to you - sometimes it's good to help fellow collectors out. That is why we sell games we already have copies of. It has nothing to do with the price or needing money. No one is saying you should sell games for less than you paid (though that does happen when you overpay). We are simply talking about helping others' collections out by filling in missing games. But I guess when people have to have 100 copies of every rare game out there that concept doesn't exist. It is just selfishness, no other reason. I would love to see you actually sell some of your dupes on this forum to other members to help out our collections but that will never happen.

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